Happy Halloween everyone!!! I guess the real terror these days is finding a suitable job!!! I was traveling and could not post last night. Creating a separate thread to track the any progress on this topic for this week. There has be a tremendous response (not sure what happened last week with the surge to 32.4 K views, absolute explosion) and a ton of useful information posted in the past 3 months. In the last 4 weeks, the comments have trended lower and hence I created a quick pool within this thread. 82% of the respondents wanted me to continue this weekly thread. Let us continue doing so going in to week #13 (post official freeze date - 08/05/2022). FYI, the summary is updated every week with some nuances. Summary from past few weeks: 1. Google is NOT under a hiring freeze anymore. A freeze by definition is ZERO new offers being extended and that is not the case. We saw offers being generated in some selected orgs since week of 08/15/2022 and more candidates have gotten clarity, either moved forward or back to TM. 2. The above statement does not mean that hiring is back in full swing, in fact far from it. Critical roles are being prioritized and suitable candidates are being moved forward in the process. Open positions pre to post freeze have almost been slashed by more than 70%. Impacting most of L3/L4 positions. Suprisingly a lot L3/L4 SWE postions were hired this month. Last 2-3 weeks we have seen several L4/L5 positions offers in other areas as well. Several L5/L6/L7 positions have been cut in the last few weeks. GCP Update: Several cuts even in L6/L7 positions in GCP. With that being said, traditionally Google typically ramps up on hiring in Q4, this year will be different. Google is shifting focus to prioritize more on the revenue generators as opposed to cost centers. Days of pet projects and pure research might be behind us. REST and VEST might have finally caught up with Google. To be honest, if you don't hear get a TM by end of October or early November then 2023 might be the next stop. Not to mention AMZN has also slowed down hiring. 3. I cannot emphasize enough of how important it is for you to have a great relationship with your RC. It is up to them to set you up with currently approved open roles. They generally like to keep you role/location/level in finding these matches. Try to stand out as the positions/candidates ratio has dramatically shifted. Most RCs know a lot less than the collective wisdom we gather from threads like this, but being in touch with RC is beneficial especially if you have not had a TM or back in the line cuz the role that you were previously matched is gone. This means you can expect anywhere from a purely TM get to know call with a HM to a semi-interview style approach by them. Be very prepared for these calls. 4. Macroeconomic factors: Not directly related, but inflation not being tamed will pose a threat to the economy & a potential recession (at least that is the perception). This might force FED's hand to raise interest rates and funny money days are over. 11/02, another FED meeting with an expected 0.75 rise in interest rates (https://www.cnn.com/2022/10/30/investing/stocks-week-ahead) It means companies (including Google) tightening down their belt, bonuses, stock buy backs and most importantly head counts. The upside here is lower stock price = potentially more RSUs (if you can negotiate well). Brace yourself for a target of 3000-3300 fall in S&P and imagine what that could do to the corporate sentiment and hiring. We can also make a small case why the low might be in. October is also notorious for market crashes and market bottoms. The earnings from GOOG, AMZN, MSFT & META were not pretty and the stocks gotten beaten up (rightfully so), only exception was AAPL. It matters cuz a big portion of compensation is RSUs. 5. Last but not the least, as frustrating as the current situation is... no point in flaring out on RCs, leadership at Google, etc. I rather have them think this through than HIRE in a rush only to FIRE after. Plus, nobody is stopping you from seeking other opportunities. It would be great to know if anyone (regardless of level, role, etc.) are receiving offers (share numbers if you are comfortable with it) and please post any useful updates provided by your recruiters. Just to standardize the format of information sharing, I urge everyone to follow this format: My Situation: Role/Level: Principal Architect (L7) Team & Location: GCP (Bay area) Last stage cleared: HC, TM done. Stuck in last stages of compensation negotiation when freeze started. Got an update on 09/23 that the team & HM that I was aligned with could not keep their HC. Next step: All the Principal Architect positions have been deprioritized and only some verticals might have openings that are now closed. My RC could not get me in front a single HM. So, in short I'm done for 2022, if not longer. Will keep the thread alive as long as there is interest, but personally there will NOT be any progress for me. 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Should we continue the weekly Google Hiring Freeze Updates Thread? PLEASE VOTE BELOW!!!
Are you vying to be Blind’s #1 troll? For all your trolling, what value do you add? OP is putting in the work for the community.
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What L4 offer range to expect, and how to negotiate? I have competing offers, but they’re dated since my Google process was delayed by hiring freeze. Can I simply ask for a $$ amount? My current TC is 420k, 4YOE, so a lot higher than I’d expect from Google anyways. Just hoping they can give a competitive offer
L4 offers are around 280-325k. Very unlikely you can match your TC without getting L5.
420k for L4 is unheard of from any public company. I'm surprised Databricks is giving offers so high. Are you including stock appreciation/depreciation?
I finished my on-site October 13th got feedback a week later that I cleared L4 UXR. My recruiter said he was waiting for earnings report in case hc shifted before setting up TM calls but I should celebrate the good feedback from the on-site. I haven’t heard from him in about a week and still waiting for team match calls. YOE: 5
Location? Team?
I shared my docs for Google india L4 for HC on 26th September and haven’t heard after that. I already got TM in July and it took them 3 months to figure out some logistics to ask me for docs. 🤷🏻♀️ I have already joined somewhere else so not interested anymore so haven’t followed up with the recruiter as well :)
Where did you join?
Anyone waiting on TM for L6 EM?
Wtf
Massive uptick in views
When is the last onboarding day for this year?
December 12th
No L6 or L7 successful team matches and offers ??
You waiting for one?
Last Tuesday I had a TM call with a hiring manager. He was a good Samaritan to reply to my blind DM when I noticed he is hiring L6 SWE on this thread (from a couple of weeks ago). I have not heard back yet.
Wow impressive