NOTE: Due to the holiday season, will NOT create a new thread for the rest of the year. What changed in last few weeks? Updates made to sections 2 & 4 Creating a separate thread to track the any progress on this topic for this week. There has be a tremendous response and a ton of useful information posted in the past 3+ months. In the last 4 weeks, holidays, year end, etc. the comments have trended lower and hence I created a quick pool within this thread. 89% of the respondents wanted me to continue this weekly thread. Let us continue doing so going in to week #17 (post official freeze date - 08/05/2022). FYI, the summary is updated every week with some nuances. Summary from past few weeks: 1. Google is NOT under a hiring freeze anymore. A freeze by definition is ZERO new offers being extended and that is not the case. We saw offers being generated in some selected orgs since week of 08/15/2022 and more candidates have gotten clarity, either moved forward or back to TM. 2. The above statement does not mean that hiring is back in full swing, in fact far from it. Critical roles are being prioritized and suitable candidates are being moved forward in the process. Surprisingly a lot L3/L4 SWE positions were hired past month. There has been a constant trickle of positive hiring news being posted on this thread. Last 2-3 weeks we have seen several L4/L5 positions offers in other areas as well. Several L5/L6/L7 positions have been cut in the last few weeks. GCP Update: Several cuts even in L6/L7 positions in GCP. With that being said, traditionally Google typically ramps up on hiring in Q4, this year will be different. With all the layoffs going around the tech companies, the job market is in turmoil. Google is shifting focus to prioritize more on the revenue generators as opposed to cost centers. Days of pet projects and pure research might be behind us. REST and VEST might have finally caught up with Google. To be honest, 2023 might be the next stop for any fresh hiring. Not to mention AMZN has is also announced a hiring freeze, Twitter layoffs and Meta announcing 11K layoffs as on 11/9/22. AMZN & MSFT might follow, even the might APPL & GOOG might join them. GOOG starting the underperformer identification process. https://biz.crast.net/google-is-toughening-its-performance-reviews-to-identify-10000-underperformers-employees-fear-layoffs-are-next/ 3. I cannot emphasize enough of how important it is for you to have a great relationship with your RC. It is up to them to set you up with currently approved open roles. They generally like to keep you role/location/level in finding these matches. Try to stand out as the positions/candidates ratio has dramatically shifted. Most RCs know a lot less than the collective wisdom we gather from threads like this, but being in touch with RC is beneficial especially if you have not had a TM or back in the line cuz the role that you were previously matched is gone. This means you can expect anywhere from a purely TM get to know call with a HM to a semi-interview style approach by them. Be very prepared for these calls. 4. Macroeconomic factors: Not directly related, but inflation not being tamed will pose a threat to the economy & a potential recession (at least that is the perception). This might force FED's hand to raise interest rates and funny money days are over. A ton of economic data awaits in the coming weeks - https://finance.yahoo.com/news/stock-market-lookahead-november-jobs-report-federal-reserve-182021843.html - It might dictate what companies like GOOG will do in 2023. A major test coming for the markets this week and the next. Depending on what the markets do (as they are considered a leading indicator, the companies would follow for 2023. It means companies (including Google) tightening down their belt, bonuses, stock buy backs and most importantly head counts. The upside here is lower stock price = potentially more RSUs (if you can negotiate well). Brace yourself for a target of 3000-3300 fall in S&P and imagine what that could do to the corporate sentiment and hiring. We can also make a small case why the low might be in. It matters cuz a big portion of compensation is RSUs. 5. Last but not the least, as frustrating as the current situation is... no point in flaring out on RCs, leadership at Google, etc. I rather have them think this through than HIRE in a rush only to FIRE after. Plus, nobody is stopping you from seeking other opportunities. It would be great to know if anyone (regardless of level, role, etc.) are receiving offers (share numbers if you are comfortable with it) and please post any useful updates provided by your recruiters. Just to standardize the format of information sharing, I urge everyone to follow this format: My Situation: Role/Level: Principal Architect (L7) Team & Location: GCP (Bay area) Last stage cleared: HC, TM done (June-2022). Stuck in last stages of compensation negotiation since July-2022 when freeze started. Got an update on 09/23/22 that the team & HM that I was aligned with could not keep their HC. Next step for me: All the Principal Architect positions have been deprioritized I'm done for 2022, if not longer. Will keep the thread alive as long as there is interest, but personally there will NOT be any progress for me. I'm passively exploring other opportunities. 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Should we continue the weekly Google Hiring Freeze Updates Thread? PLEASE VOTE BELOW!!!
Curious about GCP principal SA TC
What is the poll for?
It's at the end of all the text
Thank you for amazing updates!
You don't need to link all previous posts. Just link the previous one and people can trace back recursively. Will save a lot of scolling pixels due to the thumbnail added by Blind for each link.
I agree. OP, you're doing an amazing job. Just have a link to the previous one and the next one. No other text is adding any value tbh.
Didnβt get single TM call after my onsite in September. L4 and India location. People are getting TM calls and offers in India for L3/L4 ?
EMEA L4, and no :)
Great work OP . Really appreciate what you are doing here
no update from rec for l3, finished onsite in early August and stuck ever since :') hoping 2023 changes things, but recent tech layoffs worries me
Thank you for the updates!
My update: I had one team match last week. No updates, RC has ghosted me.
Are you located outside the US? Considering the holidays and odds of recruiters and HM taking extra time off, I wouldn't exactly call it ghosting yet. Even so, you should be prepared for TM to be slow too. HM is certainly talking to multiple candidates for their open role.
Yes, I'm located out side US. My RC got back telling that the HM is talking to other candidates and would take a call. You were right!
What was the TC you were negotiating?